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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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He tells whatever lie he thinks will negate the current thing he's been caught out on

Yep.

The January letter to Dijana was a bizarre mix of sloppy storytelling along with the classic dosage of Lloyd Evans manipulation. Let’s not forget he related that Cara’s friends were with them for the evening, as if a group of younger women had a entire night to burn in Pa Tong with a slovenly and overweight Lloyd Evans.

Let’s just be real - no one was going to date that guy in Thailand without getting compensated for it. It’s so obviously a hooker and it’s not only pathetic, but typical of his delusion how he frames it otherwise. What tourist traveling to sex tourism hotspot Pa Tong is packing along a hotel maid outfit for role play? And her friends were in on the pics? Did they post them on IG or FB and all their friends were wondering what that 40 something y.o. fat guy was doing with a group of women in their 20s? The story immediately falls apart upon examination. He admits that the hotel maid photos were taken but that nothing happened and he walked her to her hotel. Huh? Where were those pics taken then? A foreign tourist dressed as a hotel maid (and her friends!) in Thailand poses with random guys at a bar?

From the sound of that letter, it would seem to me that Lloyd was trying to push the narrative that younger women were interested him in - a point he makes in the letter. He even says he wasn’t ashamed of the photos. Considering that the audience was his wife, it was his pathetic attempt to minimise and degrade her, making her think she was not good enough for him and should she pursue the divorce, he had a lot of other options.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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The court case doesn’t seem to be “glacially slow” anymore. There have been two submissions and one “authorisation” - all in relatively short order - 22 May, 4 June, and 12 June - none of them by “JLE” or “KN”.

Also of note is that the judge was changed on 13 June (today):

Are we in the last hours of the last days of the James Lloyd Evans Croatian Litigation ©?

It would seem that far from being “glacially slow”, everyone is busy with the notable exception of Jabba the Hutt.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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In the livestream, he said that he wasn't having an affair-- he did not want a relationship, he wanted sex.

This is why we all need to be cautious when he says something out loud because it’s more often than not a misdirection or outright lie.

Evidence exists in the letters to Dijana and in the WhatsApp screenshots that he was looking for relationships.

In Austin where he first was caught, he refers to meeting women (online dating) and feeling “butterflies” - only to be rejected for sex because he was an “overweight blob” (fact check - 100% true).
He also refers to his trip to Thailand in the second letter to Dijana as some kind of soul searching expedition to see if younger women were interested in him.
Also in the second letter when he attenpted to negotiate his way out of a divorce, he promises to “come off all dating apps” and limit himself to sex workers. So he knew there was a difference between the two and it is right there in his own words.
He said he “dated a sex worker”, thus nullifying any claim to only be after the sex. She was a sex worker! But he vehemently denies that he paid for sex in Thailand, only letting it slip once that he actually did in the FB post.
First letter to Dijana he refers to her almost catching him on a dating site, and mentions “Zrinka from Rijeka”. Zrinka was someone he was online dating and a big reason why Dijana backed out of the open marriage was that he refused to limit his dates with her to Rijeka.

If these were only affairs borne out of lust, then why gush about the wonderful feeling that meeting younger women who seemed to be interested? Truth of the matter is he was on dating apps all along - from the time he got caught in England right up to Thailand. He desired a mistress he could run off to see on the side.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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Well this is interesting. Notice what he said about a “retired lawyer” helping him with an article about the case in Australia 3 years ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/s/v0i4PiiNRe

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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Maybe his patrons can post "it's been too long" as a comment on his next YT video.

An often repeated Lloydism goes along the lines of:

”I’ve always stated that the vast majority of the opposition to my work has come from exJWs rather than WT”

He says it so often it should be on his tombstone. Random thought: Wouldn’t it be “vintage Lloyd” to crowdfund for his funeral and burial expenses? Instead he’ll put the Hitchens quote about the grave supplying enough time for silence on his marble monument and have detailed plans for how he is to be eulogised.

I do hope Dijana is thoughtful enough to bring a date along to this sad occasion for humankind.

(In Croatian) “So sad, your daddy was indeed ‘one of a kind’. Girls, let’s remember him the way he wanted to be remembered and let’s do some ‘self-care’ by hitting up his favourite lobster roll joint. Anton’s treat.”

He’s been hitting these talking points ever since Lady Lee called him out for running a scam here for consistently reminding posters that he had a PayPal and they could support the survey with donations.

What he really means is that he feels exJWs have impeded his business plans all along at a great financial cost. He made this clear on his Aftermath video when he claimed Ipsilon Media was the only exJW company with “tens of thousands of dollars” dedicated to fighting WT and sarcastically congratulated exJWs on its demise. Oops - probably shouldn’t have said that part out loud, but when Lloyd opens his fat mouth, he means it - often to his detriment.

So I posted a comment to the effect of now that the company has been closed, what is he doing with this significant amount of money? And if it were spent, what tangible things were paid for and I am not talking about “salaries” for three people.

Jabbe the Hutt quickly hid my comment from his channel because it’s not a question he wants to answer. The “tens of thousands” were already spent - primarily on his “salary”.

He’s probably still living to some extent off the remnants of those donated funds whilst he pores over whatever bill Dijana sends him for the girls with a fine tooth comb.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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Lloyd: It’s been too long!

For someone who travels to the coast several times a year for weeks at a time as well as having viewer funded shroom excursions, to make this assertion is being quite disingenuous. Right on the heels of another Patreon drop no less.

Keep this in mind when you hear his next appeal for money. At least the likes of Jim Jones and David Miscavige would have staged photos of them helping in the kitchen of some exotic locations.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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Ticked up one to 333, so this month’s freefall is done. As he inches down to 300 and below, look for yet another begging stunt, this time threatening to quit altogether.

Also be on the lookout for another crowdfunding effort for the TRA 2nd edition and the “sequel”. He’ll claim translation costs and other BS expenses that we all know have been provided free of charge. If one doesn’t believe that, then ask yourself why is the language German and not Portuguese or Spanish which have the second and third highest JW populations with Brazil and Mexico?

The grift continues, but more and more people are coming to the understanding that he can do this on the side like the others, especially since he has less content than the other main producers.

PS - Thanks www.lloydevans.info and Nic’. Don’t ask me how I know, but it IS making a difference.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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That's exactly why he hangs around exJWs - the vulnerable people leaving the WTS are easy picking for a predator to take advantage of.

It’s so off-the-wall insane what he has been involved in and what he has gotten away with, that assuming he’s still around 5-10 years from now, people are going to continue to find it hard to believe it’s true. In all likelihood he’s the last exJW activist superstar. No one is going on the all-expense paid tours he went on, and he’s certainly not going on them anymore due to no one comping him for the full cost of travel, significantly lower turnout and high probability he’s going to be confronted. The earthquake fund that earned enough to purchase his family a home, the 10K AUD he conned someone out of so he could blow off interviews to take his family on tours - all gone and never to be repeated.

I am not throwing shade at anyone in particular, but it always boggled my mind how such a vain and arrogant slob could ever gain such a following and support. He openly wrote about a sex scandal involving cheating on his wife and then had the nerve to say everyone was obsessing about his penis. He’s the one who brought it up and kept talking about it! And to hear such intimate details from a guy who looked like he did wasn’t a wise move. People were surprised he got caught cheating on his wife with hookers and didn’t believe it at first? Did they read his book about how any fleeting contact with a woman got him all aroused thinking they were into him? And all the shit he dished out to others on social media…

The same patterns emerged. People in the org had bad things to say about a CO, elder or GB member in private, but went along with it because of the “good” they were doing. Kept writing the cheques to place in the contribution box even though the CO’s talk rubbed them the wrong way. Such it was with Lloyd I guess. A huge reason why I never liked him was that I absolutely despised the ones in power who thought they could wield it in the JWs. I was present at a Ted Jaracz talk once and I thought he was quite the prick.

Lloyd reminds me a lot of Ted now that I think of it.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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He never expected to see the day that the numbers would swing back against him.

This is a huge reason why he had misplayed this from the beginning. Let’s be honest here - it was a huge invasion of privacy. Most scandals are. He’s just dead wrong about the implications behind the revelations and felt that the outcry and victimhood he would claim as a result of private information being leaked would outweigh the real reason why this was a scandal of epic proportions.

Consider for a moment - Tampongate. Did the British people absolutely need to know that their future King made a disgusting and perverted comment to Camilla Parker-Bowles about being her tampon? No…. But did they deserve to know that their future King was carrying on an intimate affair with a married woman whilst betraying their future (and beloved) Queen? Absolutely. This is a guy who is in every way is representing them. On currency, internationally, and even has a weekly meeting with the PM on policy.

Did exJWs need to know all the sordid details about the collapse of Lloyd and Dijana’s marriage? Likewise - no. But in the big picture of things, one must consider this - he was fundraising off her and accepting earthquake relief money on hers and the girl’s behalf. How much did that earthquake fund go towards his Thailand trip? It was supposed to be used for his promised family home in Istria - something he emotionally blackmailed her with after she asked for the divorce - when the money was half hers by all rights.

The reasons why exJWs needed to know the full truth about the entire affair are:

Lloyd is a known liar, manipulator and bully. Pics, emails and WhatsApp conversations had to be released, otherwise he’d lie about the entire thing and get away with it.
Money donated to him - be it Patreon, PayPal, or earthquake funds - was being used to fund a sex holiday in Thailand. And it was - Dijana didn’t ask for a divorce during the trip because Lloyd was enjoying the elephants and beaches.
Lloyd was a representative of the community. He didn’t say this outright and has consistently denied it since the scandal broke, but nevertheless he had placed himself in this position…. The Leah Remini Special, IICSA, various comments made to newspapers as an “exJW activist.

Yet there exists a Charles III while Lloyd is no longer by any stretch of the imagination considered a representative of exJWs. Why? Charles didn’t go on a drunken livestream after Tampongate, admit to the entire conversation, relating how he thought of being Camilla Parker-Bowles’ tampon every 2-3 months for 3-4 years. He didn’t blurt out that Diana didn’t please him sexually. He didn’t threaten baseless lawsuits against the radio operator and media outlets after he fully admitted what was said and added more.

Charles “shut the fuck up and got off social media”. Lloyd gave the biggest sob story, implicated himself further, then contradicted himself by backing off some admissions, and then sued 7 foreigners in a podunk Croatian court using absolutely moronic pseudo-legal reasoning.

A book can be written about this - it’s so indicative of how one can be so consumed by his initial success.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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He still can’t get his head round the fact that a woman outsmarted him. Figured all women were made out of the same clay Dijana was - easily molded to whatever purpose he intended for them. If anyone ever dared to cross him, his band of Cedarites would regulate… right? February - March 2022 was such a wild ride on Twitter. For every loud Lloyd supporter there would be four or five calling out their bullshit. He never expected it and assumed they’d bully every contrary voice off social media. He was even swearing up and down to Andrew Gold that his detractors were such a huge minority… until the video went live and Gold couldn’t find more than two Cedarites in the chat defending him. He got completely exposed and humiliated. That failure had to have fucked with his head a bit. I think I’d take the shrooms too if people googled my name and found a bunch of “penis mastery” and Jabba the Hutt memes, along with a tonne of threads, blogs and videos all made with relatively minimum effort that completely embarrassed me.